[avidiax]

> if you want to convince people of something (aka politics) you may want to appeal to them using logic and for that you'll want to use facts

I used to think this way, but this advice needs to be conditional.

Dispassionate or distant parties can sometimes use facts to drive a decision. It's not even clear that it's the "correct" decision, since nobody has all the facts, and presentation, ordering, accessibility all matter tremendously.

Once you add an emotional reaction, well, people will logically or rationally pick or ignore facts to justify the emotion. Surely you've had someone tell you that you logically shouldn't be angry, and you greatly appreciated that insight and recalculated your emotions, right?

https://news.harvard.edu/gazette/story/2022/01/logic-or-emot...

[lesuorac]

If you argue purely with logic you won't convince everybody but that doesn't mean you won't ever want to appeal to somebody with logic; just that not _every_ time you won't want to.

The different words in "Pathos, Logos, and Ethos" all have their place and if somebody is acting emotionally it'd be better to use a Pathos arguement.