[jbombadil]

Yes. About 4 times poorer. (Scoping to the domain of “buying a house” which is a huge driving factor in having children)

> Median home prices increased 121% nationwide since 1960, but median household income only increased 29%.[0]

[0] https://listwithclever.com/research/home-price-v-income-hist... (That’s from where I quoted, but there’s plenty of sources. More available upon request)

[ekianjo]

> Yes. About 4 times poorer.

You don't need to buy a house to be able to live. And no, people are not poorer if you consider all factors. That's a crazy argument to make. No human living in 2023 would want to live with 1950 standards.

[jbombadil]

> You don’t need to buy a house to be able to live.

Agree.

> No human living in 2023 would want to live by 1950 standards.

Also agree.

But that neither of those things are relevant for the argument.

You don’t need a house to live, but it provides stability, which is a huge part of the decision of having children.