[pjbeam]

That's an interesting take that seems so obvious now that you've said it. I've spent my whole life in single family homes and never quite "got" the "go work in a cafe" and similar stuff. Seems like a pretty rich tapestry of possible experiences to miss out on. Huh. Will be chewing on that for a while.

[ad404b8a372f2b9]

There is no reason outside of ideology that a normal person would choose a pod/hostel bed/... over a spacious room for the same amount of money. It doesn't matter if you only sleep there, a house is always more comfortable all things considered.

All other argumentation is making up for the fact that you are paying exorbitant amounts of money for a tiny crowded space and can't afford a house. It is a social and political failure, not something to be celebrated.

In Victorian times you could pay a few pennies to hang over a rope with your fellow bums, or sleep in a coffin. 200 years later in the Bay you can do the same thing for a 100 times the price and people will actually relish the experience. This is slum tourism at home.

[LeanderK]

I sounds a bit like you've never left where you grew up and can't imagine why someone else wouldn't like it.

If someone would give me a house I would sell it. I don't want to live in a house and I definitely don't want do go back to the suburbs. Imagine that, a lot can actually buy a house but choose to buy an apartment!

[ad404b8a372f2b9]

The opposite, I've left, traveled all over, lived in hostels, lived in poverty, lived on the street. That's why I'm not fantasizing about those experiences as if they would be thrilling solely on the basis of the poorness of the accommodations.

[LeanderK]

yeah, but that's irrelevant. We're not fetishising poorness here but arguing wether you would always buy a house because it's objectively better. I wouldn't, I live in the city by choice and wouldn't move out for a house. Hell, I don't think I currently would like to live alone because I have to move into a new city and wonder about making friends there.

Re-reading it....maybe there's something lost in translation. Do you mean your own house, as in your own complete building, our something like your own home that could be an apartment?

[JambalayaJim]

First of all, these wouldn’t cost the same amount of money as a spacious room. That’s the point.

But otherwise there is still a positive aspect of staying in a hostel when you’re travelling; you easily meet other people travelling too.

[ad404b8a372f2b9]

That's the point, if people are doing it because they are too poor, at the cost of their health, then don't think it's a thrilling living experience to be celebrated.

A month at a capsule hotel will cost you more than renting a room. A New York pod or a Bay pod will cost you more than renting an apartment in a place that doesn't have a crazy renting market, pretty much 99% of the rest of the world, even big cities.

That's the point, making up for crazy living conditions in which people are packed like sardines and there isn't enough room for everyone. It's not a positive, it's not a thrilling living experience. It's a disaster and people put up with it.

A hostel is different, but if you have the money you can also rent an actual room and still get to meet people there. Hang out in the common areas, and so on, without having to deal with the terrible facilities. So stay at a hostel once and then realize if you ever do it again it'll be to save money not by choice.

[pknomad]

I've done that stint in NYC and Tokyo. It's not a bad lifestyle if you're working long hours in your 20's and just need a place to sleep and want to minimize spending.

Eventually though you do want some space for yourself.

[satvikpendem]

It's not all sunshine and rainbows. Most of the time, there's either no seating, no fast Wi-Fi, or no power outlets left. That's why I prefer to work at home with a nice desk, monitor and chair setup than to go to a cafe, which I do to relax and take a break.

[rhapsodic]

> That's an interesting take that seems so obvious now that you've said it. I've spent my whole life in single family homes and never quite "got" the "go work in a cafe" and similar stuff. Seems like a pretty rich tapestry of possible experiences to miss out on. Huh. Will be chewing on that for a while.

The only way to find out if it's worth your while is to try it. I tried it, and it wasn't for me.