[jayd16]

> not moving

You mean like at a stop light or even a stop sign? A very common thing to be near in a city?

[bmitc]

You mean when other cars are still moving?

And what is your point, in general? Engines make noise. That's not under dispute.

[jayd16]

Unless you're on the far corner, you're only living by one side of the road. Hearing ICE engines rev up to accelerate from a light is a non-trivial amount of noise.

[brewdad]

EV “engines” don’t. Way to miss the point.

[bmitc]

And the overall point has been that is literally in the noise.