[yieldcrv]

I’ve gotten lots of anti vaxxers to be into vaccines by saying what the parent said, most of them are just allergic to the word vaccine and don’t know what it means, (specifically I’m referring to using dead pathogens not just a low dosage of live ones)

so just describe the procedure, and call it a secret that big pharma doesnt want them to know, and theyre into it. be anybody but a doctor lol

slam dunk

[dorfsmay]

I'm not anti vaccine, no need to out words in my mouth.

My understanding of vaccine is that they use deactivated viruses but not small doses.

My question is about live viruses, and if we can get exposed to small doses enough that will trigger a immunization mechanism without triggering a full blown infection? Or does it work to boost an existing immunity only.

[api]

There are many different kinds of vaccines that work in slightly different ways. “Vaccine” is a class of treatments akin to “anesthetic” or “antibiotic.”

Some are weakened live agent. Some are killed or neutralized agent. Some are just a protein or other piece of the pathogen. Some like mRNA vaccines are code from the pathogen that causes your body to generate and then sensitize against something. There are probably other types.

I do find the oversimplification in the debate frustrating. Either all vaccines are bad or all vaccines are great when in reality each one is a different thing. As with other drugs some work better than others and some have side effects while others mostly do not.

As near as I can tell the mRNA COVID vaccine is fairly effective at reducing severity and duration of infection but not nearly so at completely preventing infection. There is a small risk of side effects but the danger from a more severe COVID infection is statistically much greater.

Creating a vaccine in a year is nuts. What we came up with is not half bad given that time frame. We will probably have much better COVID vaccines in a few years.

[XorNot]

It's quite possible the biggest issue with the COVID vaccines we have is that intramuscular injection produces a blood-borne immune response but the method of infection is through the lungs, and you get much less response there.

It's why there's been a lot of interest in inhalable vaccines[1] although getting them to market has had a lot of delays.

[1] https://www.nbcnews.com/health/health-news/nasal-covid-vacci...

[yieldcrv]

> I'm not anti vaccine, no need to out words in my mouth.

I didn't write that you were, I wrote that I've gotten anti vaxxers to like vaccines with the same logic.

Its pretty clear that its coincidence that you didn't know your hypothesis was the basis of vaccination, regardless of your predilection.