[015a]

This seems like a needlessly aggressive and poor take. Its a cool bug that they discovered; but going into "Apple's audio engineering team is, at least on some level, incompetent (or incompetently run; I'm not blaming the employees here, but rather the organization)" is just unproductively mean.

"and obvious in a sine sweep frequency response test, which is the most basic test you can run end-to-end on a completed audio system to ensure it is performing properly. So they didn't even run that." The one conclusion you can draw, outside looking in, is: whatever tests they ran resulted in the creation of the best sounding speakers on any device in its class. That doesn't scream incompetence to me; it screams "We tested this against songs people will actually listen to, not 300hz sine waves."

This post is a bad look for Asahi.

[d3w4s9]

> Because we don't have blatant, in your face off-by-one bugs in our DSP and we actually check the output to make sure it's good

This makes me cringe. I consider myself an experienced software engineer, but I don't think I'll ever criticize other's code like that.

[dzogchen]

Apple is nearing 3 billion dollar valuation. This is an inexcusable bug since the most banale Q&A testing would have caught.

[kakwa_]

Given the bug went unnoticed for a year by millions of customers, I doubt 'the most banale Q&A testing' would have caught it.

[zimpenfish]

> Apple is nearing 3 billion dollar valuation.

I think you mean "trillion" there?

[rowanG077]

It's just that marcan is a pretty mean person in general. He is technically very capably but always hating on everyone that is not in his in group of friends.

[okeuro49]

It's not an official Asahi communication.

It's a dev enjoying some hyperbole for something cool they fixed on a chat platform.

[thfuran]

They're being an unprofessional asshole. That they enjoy doing so hardly does them any credit.

[marcellus23]

A post on a public forum by the leader of Asahi does reflect on Asahi, whether the post is "official" or not.

[dagmx]

It is the project lead for Asahi however. As such it’s indistinguishable behaviour

[supriyo-biswas]

Hector Martin is the project leader, and regardless of wherever they comment, people will read into disparaging comments such as the one in this post (as opposed to expressing respectful disagreement).

[raverbashing]

I agree that this is not a charitable view on this bug

> "and obvious in a sine sweep frequency response test, which is the most basic test you can run end-to-end on a completed audio system to ensure it is performing properly. So they didn't even run that."

Do they want a list of all the stupid bugs there are in Linux/Desktop Managers/common apps?

Yeah an off-by-one error happens.

Funnily enough, I recently tried a PC laptop, and it had a non-obvious audio (possible hw-defect) bug as well. But the UEFI self test worked almost perfectly. Because of the frequency ranges it would use for the test

[randyrand]

but ironically this communication style would make steve jobs look tame

[alpaca128]

Not really if his biography is remotely accurate.

[randyrand]

I said the inverse of what I meant to write! oops

*Steve Jobs would make this look tame