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by garba_dlm 996 days ago
turns out there's no philosophy of engineering!

IMO, this is also why we have "computer science"... as if computers were found in nature and we were trying to 'reverse engineer' how they are made; which is ridiculous!

engineering, technology, computers, are not well covered by neither philosophy of arts nor sciences; if anything math's philosophy gets closer; but it's just a branch of phil. of science.

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> as if computers were found in nature and we were trying to 'reverse engineer' how they are made; which is ridiculous!

Computer Science is a branch of pure math, and arguably pure math is found in nature and we're just reverse engineering its laws.

Perhaps the fundamental logic behind pure math is "real" in the sense that it's "found in nature" (whatever that means, I don't see how we would prove that), and we're only applying this real thing to models that we've completely made up.

e.g., modus ponens is real, but a Turing Machine is not. We can reason about it logically but we didn't discover it, we made it up. Maybe the same can be said about numbers.

Mathematics reliably predicts observable phenomena from nature.

If that's not a proof of its "realness", then I don't know what possibly could be.

You are being extremely anglo-centric.

In Northern and Central European countries, it is call datalogic or informatics. Your analogy holds only when you tell it in English.

lucky me I'm speaking in English.

also, what does informatics have to do with philosophy, andor phil. of engineering?

> IMO, this is also why we have "computer science"... as if computers were found in nature and we were trying to 'reverse engineer' how they are made; which is ridiculous!

"computer science" does not contain the words "computer" in many languages