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by emptysongglass 995 days ago
Unlike OpenAI's DALL-E this can't take existing images and transform them which is a bummer. You can give Bing an existing picture but it will analyze it then turn it into a string description which it then feeds into DALL-E 3. Plus it blurs faces. So it's an underpowered version of what paying ChatGPT folks will get.

And as usual, Bing Chat itself seems to suffer from some significantly higher boundaries around its behavior, which really lobotomizes the chat experience compared to "actual" ChatGPT.
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famouswaffles 995 days ago
>Unlike OpenAI's DALL-E this can't take existing images and transform them which is a bummer.

>So it's an underpowered version of what paying ChatGPT folks will get.

There's no indication the cGPT interface will be doing anything different. If you see the demo, it's clearly generating text for each image at the start.

Maybe you will be able to inpaint/outpaint from GPT but that's definitely not been confirmed yet

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emptysongglass 995 days ago
Except this happens with every product OpenAI has released. Their own homegrown versions always have more features or are less hamstrung. The only place I haven't observed a difference is in the Azure vs OpenAI GPT-4 APIs: those do seem to have parity. Everywhere else OpenAI's version significantly leads.
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famouswaffles 995 days ago
>Except this happens with every product OpenAI has released. Their own homegrown versions always have more features or are less hamstrung

Like ?

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emptysongglass 995 days ago
ChatGPT currently has voice conversations for all paying subs.

DALL-E 2 has inpainting and outpainting.

Bing Chat vs paid ChatGPT is no contest: the guardrails Microsoft has put around Bing Chat make it a much worse experience.

I use these products every single day of my life. It's night and day.

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famouswaffles 995 days ago
>ChatGPT currently has voice conversations for all paying subs.

Right and Bing has had that for a bit. Worse voices and not hands off but the TTS is also a new model so it's not like switching is out of the question.

>DALL-E 2 has inpainting and outpainting

No one is saying Dalle-3 won't have inpainting/outpainting but there's zero guarantee you will be able to do that from cGPT. You'd think they'd demo that if they were but we'll see.

Paid users have been stuck on 4k context even though the model has more. Bing has been running the longer context model from the beginning with web page/pdf features. Bing also recently introduced "personalized answers" which is just retrieval augmented memory over all your chats, a feature cGPT really should have had by now.

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emptysongglass 995 days ago
> Right and Bing has had that for a bit. Worse voices but the TTS is also a new model so it's not like switching is out of the question

This is laughable. There's no comparison between the two whatsoever.

> Bing has been running the longer context model from the beginning with web page/pdf features. Bing also recently introduced "personalized answers" which is just retrieval augmented memory over all your chats, a feature cGPT really should have had by now.

As I've already stated repeatedly, the performance of the two is night and day. Use your favorite search engine to search for, "why is Bing Chat worse than ChatGPT?". There are pages and pages of results from people using both, just like me, that show the massive disparity between the two.

Why, exactly, are you starting an argument with me? There's no guarantee OpenAI's DALL-E will get inpainting and outpainting? Why even bother stating such a thing? It appears like you're just casting aspersions for the sake of it.

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