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by tzs 999 days ago
A bit OT: I'm curious what, if anything, people here see when their eyes are closed while falling asleep.

I usually see one of the following:

1. Just the brown/black of my eyelids, with some slight variations in darkness.

2. A blob of white light. It looks a lot like what you'd see if you were in a dark room with a sink full of water that is draining, and there was a drop of some glowing dye in the water which is circling the drain and expanding.

3. Gears, pistons, linkages, pulleys, wheels, etc forming elaborate moving mechanisms. I have no idea what the mechanisms are doing or if any of the mechanisms are sensible or even possible. I'm very much not mechanically inclined and so this is the most puzzling nighttime visualization to me.

4. Plants. I seem to be flying low over land with patches of grass, flowers, and trees. The scene is quite detailed, with individual leaves and blades of grass visible, and any gaps between things filled with things farther behind, giving a strong sense of 3D.

5. Animals. Unlike the plants of #4 that I see in a full environment if I see animals they are just kind of there against the brown/black background. Sometimes they are normal animals, and sometimes they are weird creatures that belong in science fiction or mythology. The animals often morph into other animals.

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> 3. Gears, pistons, linkages, pulleys, wheels, etc forming elaborate moving mechanisms...

This is a really interesting phenomenon. Elaborate machinescapes are present in a lot of psychedelic closed eye visuals. Its unusual because we typically don't have a lot of interaction with these things, yet there's this shared experience. I wonder if the experiences we have had seeing complex machinery in real life have embedded some primal response to them.

I commonly see blobs of light, but a particularly frequent recurring visualization is circus imagery. If I'm listening to music I seem to be more prone to seeing something like cardboard cutouts of the Beatles in their Sgt Pepper outfits sort of bouncing up and down moving off to the side.

I've seen none of those things. In fact, I never "see" anything[0] in my mind. I just feel the concept of it without actually seeing a visual image of the thing.

[0] except several times while I was in prison and had a lot of time on my hands to daydream -- I randomly conjured up what I would consider "hyper-real" images in my mind for a few seconds each.. a cat, an apple, a wheel spinning down a beach with a ship in the distance. I say "hyper-real" because they were far more stunning than anything I have seen through my eyes. Like my eyes are SD video and this was 8K HDR 3D. I've never been able to recreate this or do it on demand.

> 1. Just the brown/black of my eyelids, with some slight variations in darkness.

Anyone else here see a lot of colors (mostly purple/maroon on navy/black) that phase in and out when they close their eyes?

Or do I just have yet another expensive problem to fix now?

Yes, it's fairly common. "Prisoner's cinema" and "phosphenes" are terms used. I used to entertain myself during boring classes by closing my eyes and watching the light show.
Since adulthood: If sleep deprived I will hallucinate anything, probably close to #3, otherwise #1
Interesting, for me it happens sometimes if I'm badly hungover. Instantly after closing my eyes, I start seeing cartoon-like shapes that rapidly mutate to something different. Usually it's faces of people. The shapes are very dim, and black and white. But I really do "see" them as they were there.

Now I want to attempt using the technique in TFA to improve this "skill", also interested in using this for falling asleep faster and maybe even to successfully using the WILD technique for lucid dreaming, which I was never able to do.