[dpkirchner]

> This is completely alien to my personal experience. Does this match anyone else's personal experience? Have I just avoided all the objectionable events by sheer luck?

I've seen this a lot, folks protecting and defending men (in particular) that assault women. They do it under the guise of "innocent until proven guilty," as though we are operating as agents in courts of law. That's what Drew is describing in the post, in different words. You may have been lucky enough to avoid seeing this but it definitely happens.

[mfru]

I can second that.

In my experience these phrases are used often:

- "No he wouldn't do that"

- "Are you sure that this is true?"

- "I mean, how could he know that it was too much?"

- "Maybe it was kinda overstepping, but he apologized!"

- "I mean she isn't such a pious girl either." (kind of literally translated from my language, so maybe it sounds strange in English)