[dooraven]

Difference is that Serbia was actively committing ethnic cleansing.

That being said I do think Northern Serbia should be allowed to join Serbia and Srpska be allowed to join Serbia too.

The land swap deal was a good idea, shame the EU vetoed it.

[LindeBuzoGray]

> Difference is that Serbia was actively committing ethnic cleansing

I just watched videos today of an ongoing ethnic cleansing of Armenians in Karbakh that is happening today. Although from the mouths of a lot of western governments this is not an ethnic cleansing but a lot of Armenians spontaneously deciding to leave after a military invasion.

The Ukraine was fighting to regain its territory prior to Russia's intervention, and Russia was effectively accusing the Ukraine of performing an ethnic cleansing of Luhansk/Dotensk. Whether accurate or not, this was their justification for intervention too.

What I'm saying is it seems depending on a country's interests, what is an ethnic cleansing and what is not seems in eye of the beholder.

[lolinder]

Russia patterned its behavior to look like the Kosovo war precisely so people like you would defend them in the West, but they have pretty clearly shown at this point that it was all smoke screen to cover a full scale invasion of Ukraine. Any claims to be protecting Russian minorities were a sham put forward by Putin to distract from his true aim of expanding Russian territory and installing a puppet in Ukraine.

When a NATO state annexes Kosovo and invades Serbia to try to oust its president, we can talk double standards. Until then, the evidence suggests that you're being played by a tyrant.

[dooraven]

> I just watched videos today of an ongoing ethnic cleansing of Armenians in Karbakh that is happening today. Although from the mouths of a lot of western governments this is not an ethnic cleansing but a lot of Armenians spontaneously deciding to leave after a military invasion.

Yeah right now the Azeri government hasn't really done anything yet. Azeris and Armenians absolutely hate each other and Armenians there are rightly fearful of their lives but you really can't intervene on something that hasn't happened yet especially since Azerbaijan agreed to w/e US and EU asked with regards to minority protections etc (though the history of Azerbajian's government makes this questionable).

> The Ukraine was fighting to regain its territory prior to Russia's intervention, and Russia was effectively accusing the Ukraine of performing an ethnic cleansing of Luhansk/Dotensk. Whether accurate or not, this was their justification for intervention too.

Yep, and the US barely did anything there. The US provided weak support to Ukraine there but the general attitude was "Russia looking after Russian speaker interests" - the Obama admin in 2014/2015 (and either did Bush / Obama do anything in Georgia / South Ossetia) didn't do much to stop it or help ukraine. Germany / France / Europe were still trading with Russia etc. It's only when Putin decided to invade Ukraine proper did the West react because there really isn't a good justification for invading Kiev

> What I'm saying is it seems depending on a country's interests, what is an ethnic cleansing and what is not seems in eye of the beholder.

Generally agree but Serbia refused to compromise on anything (eg they banned the Albanian language in schools). NATO only decided to intervene when the Račak massacre happened and I don't think there is any documented proof of that happening in Ukraine / Karabah right now.

Basically until proper massacres are documented, intervention rarely happens.

[cycrutchfield]

Maybe Armenia’s most steadfast ally and fellow CSTO member should do something about it then?