[jzb]

"Advertisements and marketing are immoral."

That's quite a position. Are you also taking the position that capitalism and commerce are immoral? Because you really can't have those things absent marketing.

At any rate, I can't agree with this. The way that ads/marketing are done can be immoral, for sure -- but you also have PSAs against littering or simply marketing / advertising for any number of things that I'd hope we'd all agree are good ("Spay and neuter your pets," "Don't drink & drive") or at worst neutral ("Now available: The Beatles 50th anniversary Sgt. Pepper CD").

Promoting a thing is not the same thing as "psychological manipulation" unless you consider "making a person or persons aware of something" is manipulation.

One might even argue that marketing is a good when the thing is something that people benefit from being aware of. Is marketing open source immoral? Fitness, as a concept? Ads for animal adoption are immoral?

At any rate - ads are a symptom of consumerism and capitalism, so as long as that's the system we exist in they're going to be present.

[arpa]

Wow, man, your mental gymnastics are impressive and your gaslighting skills are formidable.

Are you saying that greed and straight-out lying is moral, and just because there is a powerful and dangerous minority of super-greedy liars it actually is the only means of social existence? LOL. LMAO even.

"Ads are just making people aware of something" is either a five-year old understanding of what ads are, or a deliberate lie.