[ben_w]

Doesn't seem so bold to me.

That said: I don't think of "public information campaigns" as advertising, yet also I mention this specifically because I can see the poorly defined boundary between awareness and manipulation — most advertising feels to me like government propaganda, just from a different master, and propaganda can be information as well as disinformation.

[RandomLensman]

A sign outside a shop is anti-social? Seriously? I would think that view rather anti-social.

[ben_w]

Is the sign information ("Sam's Coffee & Cake") or trying to create demand ("Don't miss out on our special offer!")?

[bugglebeetle]

I live in America and view every billboard I’m forced to see as anti-social. Many also obscure scenic views. If you drive through middle America, many are explicitly anti-social, encouraging you to join cults and deny women basic human rights.

[coding123]

Huge Rant about 20 somethings in hn that don't want the world to have ads.

Get off this internet. Go get a meetup, buy an island. build some buildings. build your own super anti-social internet on your island. View webpages made by your neighbors on the "east side" of the island.

oh, and stop using products that exist because advertising has allowed the funding to make them exist. or - just move to n korea.