[throwaway5Am1k]

>I am not misusing the word

Yes you are, see:

>they are just progressively making things worse

That's things going "shit". That's been around for as long as software has been around (e.g. Borland). Enshitification is a very specific thing: https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

To quote it:

I call this enshittification, and it is a seemingly inevitable consequence arising from the combination of the ease of changing how a platform allocates value, combined with the nature of a "two-sided market," where a platform sits between buyers and sellers, hold each hostage to the other, raking off an ever-larger share of the value that passes between them.

>shift the Overton window

You're all over the place. This has nothing to do with enshitification.

[Pannoniae]

It is enshittification because they are making the software worse in opposition to the users. They don't care that the users hate the changes, they still do it anyway, deliberately.

[rpeden]

Have you considered that many users do like the changes, and you just aren't one of them?

I first used desktop Linux in 1996 and liked it well enough. I remember using GNOME 2 and Xfce around 2010ish and liking both of them well enough, too. And they're still around if I want to use them.

But honestly? I don't use them because I like modern GNOME better. I use it every day, everything just works, and I like it more than the alternatives.

[liotier]

> But honestly? I don't use them because I like modern GNOME better. I use it every day, everything just works, and I like it more than the alternatives

Same here, but with KDE - and I'm a former XFCE user, and before that I was a Gnome user...

None of us is the whole market !

[Pannoniae]

Yes, I have, but fundamentally, using old stuff is usually quite hard. If I could revert to it, it would be great, but those are usually not too compatible with today's technology.

I use those despite their horrible UI, not because of their horrible UI.

[rpeden]

I respect that, and I hope my question didn't seem like criticism.

I suppose we're fortunate that options like Xfce and MATE are around, but I can relate re: compatibility. Truthfully I'd be just as happy with MATE as with GNOME 3.x, but last time I tried I ran into issues with high DPI and mixed DPI and didn't want to invest time trying to get it all working to my satisfaction.

[Pannoniae]

Thank you very much, and you are amazing! Personally, I am just happy KDE exists and they actually listen to users. There is not much out there in terms of desktop environments like this, sadly:)

[epidemian]

Words have meaning.

You used a word that has a specific meaning to refer to something else, hence the miscommunication.