[fosk]

So. Much. Noise.

An update on Insomnia 8.x here:

* Insomnia can be used locally-only with Scratch Pad.

* Insomnia can be used with an account without sharing any data using Git Sync (the data is in your Git repository, wherever that is hosted).

* Insomnia can be used with an account and without Git Sync in a fully end-to-end encrypted way (E2EE). Nobody can read your data.

* Insomnia stores your account information in Auth0, which is ISO27001, SOC 2 Type II, ISO27018, HIPAA BAA, Gold CSA STAR, PCI and GDPR compliant.

* The data is not automatically migrated anywhere unless an account is created, as clearly explained in the onboarding that users have to approve in order to get access to the product.

* Insomnia can be used for Free with an account.

Unlike Postman, we are fully E2EE on every plan, local Scratch Pad is still there, Git is always an option when having an account.

On top of this, we have shipped today 100s of features for real time collaboration, unlimited collaborators in the Free plan when working on one project, organizations, RBAC, EE SSO, multi-client support for everyone, and so on [1]

Finally, here is a video that shows how to use Insomnia locally: https://www.loom.com/share/de7af6f9e06b4452a799a033604f9270?...

Trying to put some clarity in the noise. If you find any of these statements which is factually incorrect, please point them out.

[1] - https://konghq.com/blog/product-releases/insomnia-8-0

[12345hn6789]

Calling valuable user feedback noise is not the wisest decision. But luckily for you I will be quiet after this. My team and I will be moving off of insomnia. That should quiet things.

[ineffyble]

"Git is always an option when having an account"

When having a paid account, you mean.

[nabogh]

So have I lost the ability to have multiple workspaces without making an account?

[fosk]

To create multiple workspaces/projects, you need to create an account. When you create an account you can still work locally by:

- Enabling Git Sync which skips the cloud entirely and works with a 3rd party Git repository.

- Using Private Environments which are never synchronized in either Git or Insomnia Sync (cloud)

If you only have one collection, you can use Scratch Pad locally for that.

[nabogh]

So you've downgraded people without an account?

[ineffyble]

Except that Git Sync has become a paid feature with this new version...

[qaz_plm]

Listen. To. Your. Users.

[LightFog]

“So. Much. Noise.“ This comes across as very dismissive of your user’s concerns. Maybe worth giving your ego a break for a few hours and embracing empathy for your users.

[fosk]

It's not about ego, it's about clarity and overall sustainability of the product.

Reality is that Insomnia offers plenty of ways to still run locally, but now it does it in a sustainable way that allows us to improve the product even more.

I forgot to add that users can also create "Private Environments" which are always local and never synchronized with Insomnia Sync (in the cloud) or Git Sync.

[neuromute]

This was a very unwelcome surprise this morning when I sat down to work.

For what it's worth, I first switched to Insomnia from Postman, years ago, when they pulled a similar stunt.

Rest assured, although I created an account earlier (to gain access to my collections which simply seemed to disappear overnight), I'll be switching away from your product, so don't count that account creation as a win in your metrics. Not impressed with how this has been handled at all. It seems there are very few trustworthy companies in tech anymore.

[pseudalopex]

Calling complaints noise does not aid clarity. And your sustainability concerns are noise to everyone else.