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by tempusr 1001 days ago
I take the Capitol Limited(Chicago <-> DC) most of the time when I go back to home.

Pros:

+ Comfort. You basically get a first class seat with cafeteria access. You can also purchase a whole room, but is less affordable than a plane ticket if you're traveling alone.

+ Regularity. The train leaves at the same time everyday both from DC and Chicago.

+ It reaches parts of the country not easily accessed by an Airport. If you need to visit someone in middle of nowhere USA, Amtrak might just be a better option.

+ Price. Book it in advance and you'll be saving ~$200 in airfare.

+ No TSA to check your luggage, some trains allow you to bring your bike, and there's always plenty overhead space.

+ Easy access to outlets for charging devices.

Cons:

+ Long! Chicago to DC takes 17 hours. Chicago to San Francisco can take two days. SW Pennsylvania is snaking route that feels like forever. It's really a question of how much you value your time.

+ No WIFI on most trains, so bring a book if you cannot scrum up a hotspot.

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The time it takes isn't that bad. It's a relaxed and more comfortable experience. You are experiencing parts of the us you normally wouldn't see.

17 hours is fairly quick. But the timing is fantastic. Amtrak leaves after work in Chicago and arrives at hotel check-in time in DC the next day

Quick? That's 1100km in 17h. 65km/h average. Regular, non-high speed should be able to do max 160-200 km/h, achieving average speed - including stops - over 130km/h, which is 2x faster.
It has a lot of stops, also theres issues with track speed limits. Additionally, it's running on freight rail, not passenger rail. So theres no hope of hitting 130km/h. (80mph in freedom units) On top of that our cars are grandfathered in and can't be replaced at the moment.
>It has a lot of stops, also theres issues with track speed limits.

Outside of major cities, it's generally a thing where you pour in money and faster track speeds come out.

>Additionally, it's running on freight rail, not passenger rail.

In many countries, there are no such distinctions outside of HSR which has it's own requirements - it's all mixed use. In Poland freight trains use the same 160-200km/h tracks as passenger railway, and move aside to let faster trains go through. Also they use tracks more when there are pretty much 0 passenger trains, like in the middle of the night.

>On top of that our cars are grandfathered in and can't be replaced at the moment.

I completely do not understand that part. Your railway cars can't hit 160km/h?

The problem is the freight railways own the track and amtrak doesn't. Legally amtrak has right of way over the freight trains but the freight companies routinely flout this and cause delays as the law is unenforced. Amtrak keeps track of these incidents which they publish on their site here: https://www.amtrak.com/on-time-performance
I guess that's a politics issue, the freight companies can chuck money at lobbying to make sure they don't have to give way.

Hopefully with some decent lines appearing in the US, Brightline and California HSR in the future people will start to experience better rail and this stuff will get more focus.

Amtrak trains can hit 80-90 mph, even the big ugly beasts. Some are rated to the lowest of high speed rail, but the track has to be updated with positive train control (PTC) to go that fast in the USA, and freight railroads have no need or desire to install that.

People from Europe don’t quite realize just how much freight the US moves by rail. It’s absolutely batshit.

> U.S. freight movements will rise from around 19.3 billion tons in 2020

Outside the Acela corridor is there a passenger train that achieves that in the US? Maybe the new Brightline. I've ridden the Amtrak Cascades quite a bit between Portland and Seattle. It's a scheduled 3.5 hour ride that usually takes closer to 4 hours. Driving takes 3 hours if you're lucky usually closer to 3.5, although I had a 5 hour return trip by car from Seattle one time when I left at 4pm on a Friday.

Point is, Cascades is one of the better services outside the NE corridor and it still tops out at only 75mph (120km/h). The average trip speed is closer to 50mph (80km/h).

We have a long way to go to achieve anything resembling European levels of service. Japanese levels feel like an impossibility.

Sleeper cars are nice