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by syntaxing 999 days ago
People on HN like to complain about the license all the time like a crusade but I’m personally very thankful for their work and the community that is building off of it. I recently setup Ollama + codellama + continue dev and it’s game changer. Practically have been a drop in github copilot replacement but local.
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dartos 999 days ago
Yeah the community is great.

It’d just be better if it was around RWKV or something that doesn’t prevent you from improving any models outside of the llama ecosystem.

It’s a great embrace, extend, extinguish play by meta.

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smoldesu 998 days ago
RWKV literally didn't really exist when Llama was released.

> It’s a great embrace, extend, extinguish play by meta.

Meta released Pytorch, Pytext and even built ONNX with Microsoft to avoid an EEE situation. What more could you possibly want?

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version_five 999 days ago
The license is a wedge that's destroying the meaning of open source, it's worth complaining about, and it's evil to have done it that way. I would have preferred a commercial license that was at least honest instead of a scorched earth ecosystem takeover like they've done. In a sense it's an extension of the big tech "provide something notionally free that's too good not to use and use it to destroy competition" model.
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waffletower 999 days ago
It is a wedge for some, but not at all 'evil', at least not for the reason you are providing. If you feel it is cannibalizing your company's business model, my apologies.
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version_five 999 days ago
Lol is that the strawman that people have come up with, that not liking metas "only do what we allow" license must be anger about competition?

No. A good parallel would be if Microsoft (say) wrote their own linux clone that was compatible but had some proprietary enhancements that made it desirable over open source distros. The only catch being, it wasn't gpl licensed (they wrote it from scratch) it had a proprietary MS license that says you can only use it for things MS approved of, and are using it at their pleasure, to be revoked at any time.

People don't care about the license, they call it open source and move away from gnu/linux to the proprietary MS version, and now we're only doing what they allow us to.

That's exactly what's happening in the ML model world right now, but people are happy with the shiny models Facebook lets them use so they say "what's the big deal".

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