[tpmx]

Subsidized by Meta for getting them more data?

I would also imagine that Meta is paying them handsomely for the obvious brand risk here - getting Ray-Bans associated with glasshole behaviour.

The Ray-Ban brand is owned by the Italian-French EssilorLuxottica conglomerate. Market cap 74B EUR.

(Meta market cap: 770B USD.)

[KaiserPro]

lol, facebook can barely get the glasses to play sound reliably, they aren't spying on you with these glasses.

[tpmx]

There's very often a large difference between the v1 capability and the long term aspiration, both in technical capabilities and market capture.

Compare Windows 1.0 (https://winworldpc.com/product/windows-10/101) with Windows 10/11.

[capableweb]

And also teams within the product pushing for different things, like the recent Google Marketing Team vs Google Chrome Team wanting different approaches.

[KaiserPro]

Windows 1.0 was release 38 years ago, microsoft has changed persona at least three times since then.

Not that we shouldnt be suspicious of facebook, but we really must actually seek evidence rather than just decry them as witches. It lets other companies get away with loads simply because they are well liked.

[tpmx]

Which is it, they are incompetent or they are just misunderstood?

[ParetoOptimal]

> lol, facebook can barely get the glasses to play sound reliably, they aren't spying on you with these glasses.

Based on what do you assume playing sound reliably is a harder or more priority problem than spying on you?

[KaiserPro]

based on engineering a product that has a power capacity of <2 watt hours, to work reliably and is able to play and stream audio correctly.

To spy on someone using these glasses would mean decent audio stack that can actually reconnect by its self, rather than having to power cycle the entire device.

Not only that, but a level of attention to detail that means that what ever spying it does can happen reliably and inside a tiny power envelope.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying don't be suspicious of facebook, What I'm asking is to actually interrogate their level of skill.

facebook are frankly shite at software, just use any of their supporting apps.

o Portal, great hardware, shame that it never connected reliably.

o oculus: They have the power of facebook/instagram/social graph, yet its impossible to join your mate in game. Something Steam nailed in the days of dialup

o Rayban: cannot play audio reliably, pretty tricky to download pictures.

o Advertising: fuck me, its like oracle had a baby with SAP, and force fed it MS access forms.

Yes, yes its an advertising giant. But have you tried to get any usable and accurate data out of it?

Stop building them up like they are an unstoppable genius factory. Its basically a bunch of confused cats trapped under a duvet. The difference being those cats can drive advertising clicks.

[AlecSchueler]

They're a surveillance company, not an audio company.

[syndicatedjelly]

Facebook/Meta isn't a member of FAANG for nothing