[tshaddox]

That just sounds like humans committing assault. Really awful, but to me it doesn't indicate much about the concept of unions. I bet there was a firefighter once who murdered someone, but likewise that doesn't indicate much about the concept of firefighting.

[adamrezich]

> I bet there was a firefighter once who murdered someone, but likewise that doesn't indicate much about the concept of firefighting.

exceedingly terrible analogy, because the hypothetical firefighter hypothetically committing a hypothetical murder, wholly unrelated to firefighting, is a completely different situation than union guys threatening violence on a worker for union-related reasons, in the pursuit of union-related ideals.

[tshaddox]

The point, of course, is that it wouldn't matter whether the firefighter's murder was in pursuit of firefighting-related goals. If the firefighter murdered a coworker who was competing for a promotion, that still tells you very little about the concept firefighting.

It's not some huge gotcha that the union workers who committed assault did it in pursuit of their own goals. Most people do most things in pursuit of their own goals.