[huhtenberg]

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Never gave much thought to Go's UTF8 support, but this makes me think that it might've been better limited just to the string literals. The last thing I want is to patch other person's code by copy-pasting original variable and function names, because all I have is a standard US keyboard locale.

[chc]

I've said it before and I'll say it again: Somebody really just needs to clone Apple's input method on Linux and Windows. Then you don't need to copy and paste — "é" is just one more keystroke than normal "e", option-e-e. This alone solves probably 95% of the international issues I encounter to the satisfaction of everyone involved.

[ethereal]

I believe that is the purpose of the AltGr [0] key, is it not?

[0] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AltGr_key#US_international

[groovy2shoes]

On X11, the keymap can be set to "US International" which is the same as a stock US layout but with deadkeys and an AltGr key. I find it to be even easier than Apple's input method.

[chc]

You're right, I should have mentioned that. I admit to only having learned about that recently, but it didn't sound quite right to me. You really like it better? As I understand it, the US International keymap makes any character that might be used as a deadkey always act as a deadkey, right? Because that sounds a little annoying for programming. In a Ruby program, even a French or Spanish one, probably most of the ` and ~ characters are going to be syntax, not diacritics. (But like I said, I haven't gotten to try it, so I might have gotten the wrong impression.)

[omaranto]

I found it annoying enough that I now use US International without deadkeys. And definitely "Alt gr-o" is a lot easier than the "Option-e o" that I'm forced to use on the school's Macs.

[reidrac]

Actually that's my configuration of choice, being Spanish, I use a UK keyboard + AltGr and it's perfect. I find the UK layout more comfortable for programming, and still can type Spanish when needed.

[calibwam]

This is just the same for me in Norway. The Norwegian layout has open curly brace on AltGr + 7, which is very painful when programming. US with AltGr is so nice, but it just makes me more of a weirdo up here..

[vidarh]

I'm a Norwegian living in the UK using a US keyboard layout.. Definitively couldn't handle using a Norwegian layout for programming any more.

[nakkiel]

Have you tried to use a Compose Key on X servers? You can use it as follows:

    Compose-Key e ' => é
    Compose-Key e ` => è
    Compose-Key e " => ë
    Compose-Key e ^ => ê

I wonder how this is done on Mac?

[jonsen]

  Option-e e => é
  Option-` e => è
  Option-u e => ë
  Option-i e => ê

[eridius]

On Lion and later, it's even easier. Just hold down the e key and you get a list of the various accented versions.

Granted, it doesn't work in the Terminal, or certain other apps that don't use the standard text edit widgets (e.g. MacVim, TextMate), but in those apps you can continue to use the old ⌥e+e trick.

[canop_fr]

I don't know if I'll be able to go on with that. When I was coding in smalltalk and at the very beginning of java I was happy to use the full power of my speaking language in my programs but I had to give up my accents because most tools were unable to handle them.

Now that (on linux) most tools deal correctly with UTF-8, I try again, at least on programs that I'm sure I won't share with people not understanding French (for example French MMORPG). Time with tell but I don't take this risk at work.

[maaku]

Learn how to use your ALT-keys.

[huhtenberg]

Do tell how I would enter Ж with my Alt-keys. Or better yet, tell me how to tell apart 'e' and 'е' (one of them being a Cyrillic letter.)

[krasin]

A popular Russian CRM (1С) has a scripting language where the code looks like:

СпрСотр = СоздатьОбъект("Справочник.Сотрудники"); СпрСотр.Новый(); СпрСотр.Наименование = ФИО; СпрСотр.Должность = Должность; СпрСотр.Оклад = Оклад; СпрСотр.ДатаПриема = ДатаПриема; СпрСотр.Записать();

It's not surprising they were not able to expand to the Europe market.

[maaku]

Op was complaining about é, not Ж.