[camgunz]

Yeah, they're all beholden in some way to the success of SpaceX or access for their books.

I'm not a Musk basher, I mean I do think he has behavior problems on X and runs constant pump and dumps in crypto, but I don't think he's an idiot or incompetent or what have you. I think Tesla and SpaceX are incredible achievements. All I'm saying is that there are a lot of people who are like, "and it was all Musk, this proves it", which to me feels like an impossible claim to prove. Don't thousands of people work at SpaceX? Isn't it possible they're better at engineering, or had better luck?

[ryzvonusef]

I am talking about Musk vs Bezos, and how each one's leadership affects their respective organisation's performance.

Ceteris Paribus, given two billionaires, both with the ability to hire the thousands of excellent employees you mention, why does one succeed while the other doesn't?

The excellent employees at both organisations cancel out and we left with the two billionaire leaders and hence why we talk about them and not the employees.

[camgunz]

> Ceteris Paribus

There's no such thing as ceteris paribus when it comes to organizations where thousands of people work, doing insanely complex work. There's literally way too many variables.