[P_I_Staker]

There's also this weird defensiveness, and all of society seems to contribute to "the cause". Alcohol should be as stigmatized as much as smoking and illicit drug use.

Maybe if you have just one with diner and get drunk a few times in your life, you'd be like the guy that does coke at a few parties.

The vast majority of heavy alcohol users suffer from the same behaviors that get you labeled as a drug addict: needing it to fully have fun, not being able to imagine stopping, being okay spending large sums of money on product, etc.

Yet people will lose your mind if you suggest it should be stigmatized like with other substances... and I don't think there's a problem with some "light" stigmatism with things like smoking, drinking, and cocaine use.

We just don't need to treat people as subhuman, but they should be similarly stigmatized. Like the chain-smoking dude presently is.