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by satvikpendem 996 days ago
> And you never have to touch it again, since most likely you configured it in a way you like.

That was the issue for me, there actually is quite a bit of churn in the Neovim plugins ecosystem compared to VSCode (Packer vs Lazy for plugin management is just the latest iteration). I used to have Neovim plugins all built out but the churn was too much for me.
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lawn 996 days ago
I think it's what you do with it.

I've used vim-plug for over a decade and it's been working fine. Yes there has been a lot of churn within some plugins, but overall it hasn't been that bad in my opinion.

And with lazy tracking plugin versions in a lock file, it's easy enough to pin plugins to a known good version whenever something breaks.

(I finally rewrote my entire config, and lazy is vastly better than vim-plug. I should've done so sooner.)

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59nadir 996 days ago
> (I finally rewrote my entire config, and lazy is vastly better than vim-plug. I should've done so sooner.)

What's better about it? I ask because I've been using `Plug` since I switched from pathogen (what feels like) an eternity ago and I don't really know any reason to switch because it just sort of works...? Every few years or whatever I'll overhaul the config (not a choice but it just sort of happens) and I'm curious whether switching plugin management plugin has a point.

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lawn 995 days ago
Some things:

- You can specify plugins dependencies, instead of having everything in a big list.

- You can separate each plugin setup/configuration into separate files.

- It tracks plugin versions in a lock file that you can commit into git. Makes it easy to identify plugins that breaks and lets you pin it to a known good version.

- Nicer UI to install and update plugins, including a git log for each plugin.

- Lazy loading of plugins. Not critical, but it does make a difference if you have a few slow plugins that you need occasionally or just a lot of plugins.

- Profile plugin startup times in a nice way.

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wrapperup 996 days ago
Oh yeah for sure. I haven't had that happen to me, but when I dropped AstroNvim, I had a chance to start from fresh (on lazy).

Small customized config also means smaller and more precise changes. I haven't touched mine in quite a long time, only usually to add that cool trick or plugin that pops up every so often.

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