[chii]

> When you write modular code that minimizes assumptions about its context, that situation is a common occurrence.

so your code isn't modular after all, because the code is _doing_ logging as a side-effect of the actual functionality.

The modularity of your code should mean that the outcome of the functionality is packaged into a bundle of data, and this bundle includes information about errors (or warnings) - aka, a status result.

The caller of this module will inspect this data, and they themselves will decide to log (or, if they are a module of their own, pass the data up again). This goes on, until the data goes into a logging layer - solely responsible for logging perhaps.

[TeMPOraL]

Yes, except the problem here is that if the app crashes, you'll lose all the messages in the bundle. That's why people tend to use side-effect logging that persists messages immediately. That, and because it keeps timestamps correct.

I suppose this approach would make most sense in event-driven apps where no particular processing takes any meaningful amount of time, so you're constantly revisiting the top-level loop, where the "logging layer" could live. However, most software isn't written this way.

[Too]

App segfaulting before having chance to log is mostly a thing in the past, unless you are writing c++. Any other language will instead have a top level exception handler.

If you were to take hard crashes into account, you would even have to log before each operation instead of after, basically reverting to printf-debugging.

[TeMPOraL]

> unless you are writing c++

Guilty as charged.

> If you were to take hard crashes into account, you would even have to log before each operation instead of after

Yes, that's exactly what I see done and do for large enough operations (substeps of those operations only log when they're done).

> basically reverting to printf-debugging

That's what logging is, fundamentally. printf debugging, but with your own printf that has a few more knobs.