[api]

The crazy stuff he says is not the stuff about civilization going back further than conventional models. There are numerous archeologists who argue that and their positions are usually considered outside the mainstream but not insane.

Hancock says a lot of other things that are actually crazy, and like many people he’s gotten much worse lately.

[bagels]

What are the actual crazy things?

[ulizzle]

That Atlantis was real and probably had steam engines and lasers and psychic powers when everyone else was still hunting dinosaurs but then a global catastrophe wiped out the world (again) and here we are, half their size and half their glory.

I don’t think it’s that crazy.

What’s crazy is thinking eggs are bad for you and that the fabric of reality itself is nothing but a social construct

[hutzlibu]

I think for steam engines and laser tech, there would have to be some sort of evidence to be found. The only slightly "plausible" theory might be, if a advanced civilisation would have had psychic powers (quantumnwaves something) and no need for conventional tech, then there is a reason nothing can be found today. And then of course there was a global mage war, with all the psychic powers burned out of the minds of human.

(I do recommend the Illuminatus! Trilogy from Wilson and Shea, for interesting alternative history fantasy and all kinds of crazy stuff)

[ulizzle]

I made that up about the psychic powers because I thought it was funny but that’s why people doubt Hancock. An advanced civilization, whether here or in space, leaves debris.

If we can find the Titanic we should be able to find the Atlanteans. Maybe.

[hutzlibu]

Well, I am not an expert in obscure experts, but I know that on 2 occasions people told me in all seriousity the idea of a psychic advanced Atlantis and mentioned a name who discovered it, but no Idea if that was Hancock.

And that lost civilisations existed, I have no doubt.

But likely not with laser tech.

[midoridensha]

>An advanced civilization, whether here or in space, leaves debris.

Not really. Just look at abandoned places today, and you can see how quickly nature takes them over and erases them. Sometimes traces can be found, like ancient cities that are sometimes found in the jungle of central America, but that's after ~500 years or less. On much longer timescales, nature and geology bury or destroy most evidence. If you're really lucky, something might be dug up, but that's rare. The only reason so many prehistoric fossils (dinosaurs etc) have been found is because there are SO many of them: they existed for hundreds of millions of years, all over the planet, so we've captured a tiny slice of what lies beneath the surface.

Perhaps there's some evidence of a past advanced civilization buried somewhere, but we haven't found it yet.

The Titanic is barely over 100 years old, so of course it's (partially) still there.

[WalterBright]

One cannot have lasers without a lot of other advanced technology and precursors. There's zero evidence of that.

[ulizzle]

I agree, which is the reason I don’t buy Hancocks theories or for that matter, the idea that aliens and UFOs exist.

I admit I went too far with the lasers but my thinking is that the fact that we are alone in the universe gives a lot of credence to the theory that we live in a simulation, and wouldn’t “Age of Atlantis” be a fun mod?

[WalterBright]

The simulation is indistinguishable from religion.

[steve_adams_86]

I had a laser pointer when I was like 8 years old. They probably just got theirs from the dollar store like I did.

[agravier]

Unless reptilian space overlords somehow gave it to us in their contrived crazy planet-scale experiments, of course.

[steve_adams_86]

Is there much evidence that eggs are good for you?

We’re still hunting dinosaurs. Wild Turkey season opens pretty soon where I am.

[bagels]

It's pretty well established that humans need food to live.

[steve_adams_86]

That’s not germane; eggs aren’t the only good humans can eat.

[rdp36]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-iCIZQX9i1A