[rmilejczz]

I’ve written a lot of react apps (first used it in a hackathon in 2014) and this list is really just fluff. hooks + context make all of these libraries pretty much unnecessary for most react apps as they are not that complex

I think the more glaring criticism is the lack of any unified component library. The amount of different Button implementations alone is astounding

[eropple]

I agree on both points. I used to quite like Redux but, between NextJS simplifying the page model and hooks/context being a lot easier for CRA-style apps, I just don't need them anymore for the sort of things I do.

The real kick to the shins is that React Server Components did a number on most component libraries, too. I've been forced to go to Tailwind (and DaisyUI, which is pretty nice) just so my stuff doesn't require 'use client' all over the place. The end result will be way better, it already is when you actually can get there, but right now it's annoying and awkward.

[WorldMaker]

That was something that React Server Components definitely got backwards. The default state of the world before RSC was client components. If a mark is needed it should have been "use server" for the new style of components.

[eropple]

I don't mind that, because I think server components should be the default. They're better. But the profusion of CSS-in-JS solutions (which always seemed unwise to me) take it on the chin because of it.

[satvikpendem]

> hooks + context make all of these libraries pretty much unnecessary for most react apps as they are not that complex

To be fair, context is not a state management tool [0], an article by acemarke, the Redux maintainer. It does work as a dependency injection tool and for many people, that's enough, but it's not a true state management tool.

[0] https://blog.isquaredsoftware.com/2021/01/context-redux-diff...

[bafe]

React context is is just a way to bridge props deep down a component hierarchy. By combining it with an appropriate hook you can almost obtain the effect of a state manager like redux. There are limits to this however; being just a way to pass props it doesn't give you any fine control over reactivity

[satvikpendem]

Yes, that is indeed what the article I linked says.

[rmilejczz]

I did specify hooks + context, not just context. Hooks + context together can be cobbled together into an adequate state management solution for most apps, this article even agrees with me. So not sure what your point is lol

[bafe]

I just write my first fairly complex react app. As a mostly backend/tool Dev with good knowledge of functional programming I agree with this. I could solve almost any problem using hooks + context and memo. I briefly considered using Redux but I quickly realised that a few changes in certain components would take care of most of my state management problems