[jprete]

I think a lot of the drudgery is lack of language quality. But this is still a better argument than I’ve seen before for using it.

[sanderjd]

I dunno, I've used all kinds of languages, from the ones people often consider lower quality to the ones people often consider higher quality, and they all have something like this.

And maybe there's some as yet unexplored design space out there for which this isn't true, but my prior is that we're actually just circling around some essential complexity at the core of the problem, which will never be eliminated.