[mrweasel]

I'm currently replacing my network equipment with Mikrotik, not because I believe it to be safer than Ubiquity, but because then at least it's made in the EU.

But now I'm thinking: Is it better that the US is spying on me in Europe, vs. having EU governments do it? I feel like I'd be somewhat more safe from the US, compared to if my own government decides to spy on me. Maybe I should look into Chilean network equipment, I can't imaging that they'd have much interest in my online activities.

[owenmarshall]

> But now I'm thinking: Is it better that the US is spying on me in Europe, vs. having EU governments do it? I feel like I'd be somewhat more safe from the US, compared to if my own government decides to spy on me.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes

> In recent years, documents of the FVEY have shown that they are intentionally spying on one another's citizens and sharing the collected information with each other, although the FVEYs countries claim that all intelligence sharing was done legally, according to the domestic law of the respective nations.

So in practice, it's entirely irrelevant: your data will end up Hoovered up by someone, coated with a veneer of legality, and provided back to your government to act on (or not).

Don't be too interesting to your government, I guess?

[BlueTemplar]

None of these are EUropean countries.

[owenmarshall]

Scroll down and learn about FVEY+3 and friends.

[PNewling]

Here's a link that starts down there:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes#Nine_Eyes

[Freestyler_3]

Other countries spy on you and sell it to your own country.

[manmal]

Europe doesn’t make that many chips (unfortunately), chances are high there’s US/Chinese components in there too. Since your network hopefully sees mostly encrypted traffic anyway (even if you're running Plex on the LAN, that should use SSL), I‘d be more concerned about HW in desktops, notebooks and tablets.

[isykt]

I think in order to address this question, we need to know more about your threat model.

Are you a journalist working in a sensitive/dangerous area?

Do you often participate in discussions with dissident groups?

Do you frequently access content that is illegal in your jurisdiction?

[BlueTemplar]

In democratic countries we also have rights against (unjustified) spying by our governments. Sounds like a better long-term plan for everyone is to make them work. Especially when even the ideal equipment won't do much against metadata spying by ISPs and cellphone carriers...