[freejazz]

>-Tell customers what our prices are to upgrade Premium membership options;

surely if I upgrade it tells me the price before I purchase the upgrade? they are complaining that they can't advertise it in the app?

>-Let our customers request an email or other communication telling them about the ways they can save money;

seems like "let our customers request" is doing a lot of work here

>-Provide our customers with different payment options beyond what Apple mandates (e.g. a credit card or PayPal, etc.); or

ah, so no crypto?

>-Deliver new product enhancements or introduce new features to our customers without Apple’s explicit approval.

so they don't want to have to be approved to be on the app store... aside from the fee, these are the fundamental complaints they list. seems a bit whiny imo.

[johneth]

> surely if I upgrade it tells me the price before I purchase the upgrade? they are complaining that they can't advertise it in the app?

You're basically not allowed to list your prices or describe how to subscribe (unless it's via Apple's in-app purchases, where they take 30% for doing nothing).

> ah, so no crypto?

No, and no credit/debit cards, PayPal, etc. either. Only Apple's in-app purchases are allowed on Apple platforms. You're not allowed to hint that other payment options are available, either.

[freejazz]

>You're basically not allowed to list your prices or describe how to subscribe (unless it's via Apple's in-app purchases, where they take 30% for doing nothing).

I'm not here to argue the app store pricing, it's been discussed to death. that being said, I disagree with you that they do nothing.

>No, and no credit/debit cards, PayPal, etc. either. Only Apple's in-app purchases are allowed on Apple platforms. You're not allowed to hint that other payment options are available, either.

How do you think people pay for things on the app store if not with a credit or debit card? You can also use paypal (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202631). Seems like you are just going off your own misunderstanding of Spotify's phrasing. As to the other options, that seems consistent with not being able to market off-app purchase options. What would those other payment options be, btw? I just checked and on their website they only take credit cards and paypal...

[johneth]

> How do you think people pay for things on the app store if not with a credit or debit card? You can also use paypal (https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT202631).

No, I understand that Apple will take many payment methods, which are then used when purchasing an in-app purchase.

What I object to is why this is the only way apps are allowed to take payment. Why can't they take card payments themselves, without having to go via Apple?

> Seems like you are just going off your own misunderstanding of Spotify's phrasing.

No, I understand the issue. It's been around since long before Spotify's PR campaign. Just because I don't share the same viewpoint as you, it does not mean I 'misunderstand' the issue.

[freejazz]

>What I object to is why this is the only way apps are allowed to take payment. Why can't they take card payments themselves, without having to go via Apple?

That's a pretty obvious answer, no? because apps would be full of these attempts to charge customers and apple would still need to make standards about how it would have to work.

>No, I understand the issue. It's been around since long before Spotify's PR campaign. Just because I don't share the same viewpoint as you, it does not mean I 'misunderstand' the issue.

It's not because you disagreed, it's because you genuinely seemed confused as to whether or not you can use a credit card, debit card, or paypal to pay for spotify premium in the app, which you can do.

[imchillyb]

Spotify is pulling an Epic-Fortnite here.

Whine and cry that the contract they have with Apple is egregious.

Hopefully a federal judge stuffs Spotify just like Epic was stuffed.