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by hdesh 999 days ago
On a lighter note - I saw a chat message that started with "Hey dude! How is it going". I'm disappointed that the response was not https://nohello.net/en/.
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I strongly support the “no hello” concept but I also fear being seen as “that guy” so I never mention it. Sigh
I've made peace with people sending me a bare "hello" with no context. I ignore it until there's something obvious to respond to. Responding with the "no hello" webpage will often be received as (passive) aggressive, and that's a bad way to start off a conversation.

Usually within a few minutes there's followup context sent. Either the other party was already in the process of writing the followup, or they realized there was nothing actionable to respond to and they elaborate.

I should have a slack bot that replies automatically to generic greetings… that way they’ll get on with whatever the issue is and I won’t have to reply.
Ha ha, that's a great idea!

A: Hello!

B's bot: Hello to you too! I am a chatty bot which loves responding to greetings. Is there a message I can forward to B?

"No hello" implies that people shouldn't be friendly at all, and comes across as rude.

The concept simply needs a more descriptive name to be accepted. It's not about not saying hello. It's about including the actual request in the first message, usually after the hello.

I make it my status message.
The people who need it aren’t the type of people who’d read it.
I made it my status message as well and all I got was a complaint passed along from my manager because somebody said that it was too rude and that I should be more gentle with my fellow corporate comrades...
I tried that on slack for a while, it made no difference. I don't think most people read the status message. The medium lends itself to the "Hi" type messages unfortunately, there's not really a way go constrain human nature, other than to not use instant messaging at all (I also tried changing my status to a note telling people to phone me, that didn't work either)
I have seen people never ask their question after multiple days of saying "hello @user", despite having nohello as a status. And despite having asked them in the past to just ask their question and I'll respond when I can.

You just can't win.

I'd count that as a win. You avoided wasting your time answering a potentially inane question. If it were important, they would have asked.
Be that guy. In the long run it's better to be right then popular.
But then I might not survive the long run.
This is quite funny for me because at first I didn't understand what the problem is.

In German, if you ask this question, it is expected that your question is genuine and you can expect an answer (Although usually people don't use this opportunity to unload there emotional package, but it can happen!)

Whereas in Englisch you assume this is just a hello and nothing more.

In England people say "You all right" and move on without even waiting for a response!
In America it's even worse because they say "What's up?" in the same way we Brits say "Alright?", but "What's up?" to me like the person has detected something wrong with you and wants to know what the problem is. At least "Alright?" is more generally asking for your status.

Of course, both are generally rhetorical, which must be confusing for some foreigners learning English, especially with the correct response to "Alright?" being "Alright?" and similarly with "What's up?".

I believe the correct response is "Chicken butt," but maybe I'm in very exclusive company in responding that way.
I love that an entire website was made around this, without any attempt to sell me anything. So rare to see that these days
Glad I've never had to deal with that in chat.

Though I have had the equivalent in tech support: "App doesn't work" which is basically just hello, obviously you're having an issue otherwise you wouldn't have contacted our support.

Destroying comradery with a co-worker - Any % (WR)
Unfortunately, the AI researcher did not use a LLM to automatically respond the nohello content.