| > I am a bit puzzled when you suggest that I am indoctrinated or otherwise brainwashed. The language you are using is grafted from every narrative being sold. Nobody who takes the time (it took me about 8 months) to look-up, understand and critically think about the available data says these things. It's like talking about anti gravity devices to make hoverboards. Sounds fantastic. Not real. > But dismissing all the research highlighting the problems potentially coming ahead is definitely a big claim, and requires extraordinary evidence to convince me or anybody reading the thread. This is precisely where everyone goes with this. What I said is, to put it simply: We cannot "save the planet". In quotes because the very phrase is ridiculous. We are being told that, if we spend billions of dollars on nonsense and destroy entire economies we are going to "address climate change" and in some cases they'll add "within a generation or two". There are only two ways to sell such nonsense. The first is you do a great job of indoctrinating people. The other is to make sure the masses are not educated enough to distinguish between reality and fantasy. They are using both. They have actually sold the masses on this idea that we can affect a planetary scale issue in the span of one or two human lives. In a rational society these people would be laughed off the stage. Reality? If humanity left the planet tomorrow. In other words, the most extreme form of eliminating all of our carbon contributions. It would take somewhere between 50K and 100K years for a reduction of 100ppm of CO2. How can I make this assertion? I am not making it myself. We have reliable data showing this in great detail for the last 800K years. In other words, we know exactly what the planet does without humans around. So, if the most extreme form of CO2 emissions reduction --no more humans on the planet-- would require 100K years for a 100ppm reduction, how can anyone claim that we can do that A THOUSAND TIMES FASTER while billions of people and all of our industries, etc. are still around. This is so ridiculous it isn't even a good joke. |