[lsofzz]

Here's the thing:

Imagine you are in a boxing match, and your opponent looses the fight. The person who wins the fight would tell the opponent that they did well regardless; It's a courtesy. A sane person does not go around the ring saying "Ha ha you lost the fight". Is that right?

Similarly, I disagree that things need to be __that__ explicit.

[Sakos]

What the fuck are you talking about? What does that have to do with what we're talking about? These things are not fucking comparable.

We're talking about something and I think it's helpful to have everything explicitly stated instead of just implicitly hoping everybody draws the same interpretation.

It's one thing to be willing to be wrong, but it's an entirely different thing to have the grace to accept being wrong when you're in that situation, which can take a level of emotional regulation and acceptance that isn't automatic. That's something most of us have to work at. That's why it needs to be explicitly mentioned. I've been willing to be wrong and stated things I was reasonably sure was correct, but felt frustrated and embarrassed leading to me being unnecessarily combative. Over time, I've worked on that emotional response so I'm able to say "yes, you're entirely right" and not take it personally when I am wrong.

So yes, it needs to be explicitly stated and discussed and cannot be glossed over.

[matheusmoreira]

He's talking about the adversarial nature of arguments. Ego is almost always involved and it often becomes heated and gets personal.

People who are wrong may have difficulty even realizing they are wrong. When they do realize it, they face the challenge of admitting it publicly. It's not easy. When I'm wrong I always try to do it but I'm not sure I always succeed.

Just as important as admitting it is allowing the other person to save face. Plenty of people will quietly de-escalate arguments and leave if you allow them to do so. It's a good idea to allow it if you spot the opportunity. Don't push it. Don't rub it in. Don't demand it. Don't try to get the last word. Sometimes it's good to let things lie after an argument has run its course. I believe that's the point the person you replied to was trying to make with the boxing analogy.

[lsofzz]

I could possibly not have explained as well as you did. Thanks for such a great articulation. It is _exactly_ what I wanted to say.