[tristor]

Yes, GP is absolutely correct, all the people in the developing world who can't afford food are much healthier than those of us in the West, that live long enough and eat enough to deal with diseases of obesity that primarily affect one after 60 years of age. /s

[seabass-labrax]

You put /s, but that to an extent is sort of true. Diseases can't be cured as effectively where remedies or mitigations are too expensive, but the same first world locations where medicine and care is most available also have a litany of factors working against health.

I don't believe though that this is inevitable, and I hope that the first world will continue to improve its situation, and that less well-equipped areas will somehow avoid making the mistakes and leapfrog these uncomfortable middle periods. We see this for instance with the Industrial Revolution, where those that can be credited with facilitating it generally did pretty poorly for themselves, but those who industrialised later were substantially better off.

[lotsofpulp]

The context is not affording junk food, not not affording food. Most burgers qualify as junk food.

[tristor]

Sure. Starvation is more deadly than obesity however, and globally more prevalent.

[lotsofpulp]

https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and...

>In 2016, more than 1.9 billion adults, 18 years and older, were overweight. Of these over 650 million were obese.

>39% of adults aged 18 years and over were overweight in 2016, and 13% were obese.

https://www.who.int/news/item/06-07-2022-un-report--global-h...

>The number of people affected by hunger globally rose to as many as 828 million in 2021

I would bet the obesity numbers have greatly increased since 2016.

[waffleiron]

Another statistic from your source

> Around 2.3 billion people in the world (29.3%) were moderately or severely food insecure in 2021

It’s easy to talk on a forum like this, where the median salary is massive compared to global/country median, that poor people shouldn’t be able to afford as much bad food. I think when you do so you’ve lost touch with the average person who is affected by things like shrinkflation.

[lotsofpulp]

I never meant to imply poor people, as in starvation poor, should not be able to afford as much bad food.

But generally, the people eating burgers in developed countries have a choice of eating healthier foods, and choose to eat burgers instead.

[tristor]

What wonder, we've nearly conquered hunger if obesity has finally become more prevalent than starvation. I stand corrected. Nonetheless, starvation is more directly harmful/deadly. Obesity may kill you eventually, starvation will kill you in relatively short order.

[lotsofpulp]

Sure, but this thread is about the price of processed junk foods going up, including burgers, the sat fat laden mayo, and the bread enveloping it.

Price increases in healthy lentils, grains, nuts, fruits, vegetables, dairy, and healthier meats/poultry/fish is a concern for the global poor, but that is not what is talked about here.