[stuckinhell]

Why wouldn't they ? The USA lost in Afganistan, and Saudi Arabia is much more advanced.

[lesuorac]

I mean the Taliban's leadership was all killed during the Afghanistan wars so if you're MBS I don't think you count that as USA losing.

[stuckinhell]

Obviously that's not true, or they would have lost.

[lesuorac]

Do you dispute that Steve Jobs died?

Leadership dieing (Steve Jobs / OBL) and an organization (Apple / Taliban) no longer existing aren't always the same thing.

[stuckinhell]

Steve jobs wasn't the only leader at Apple.

[lesuorac]

Sure and Apple even has even found a replacement CEO for him. But my point is that leadership can be removed (or die) and the organization will still be around.

MBS is well aware of USA using either a coordinated attack (OBL raid) or a targeted strike (cruise missile) to kill high level targets. Perhaps Saudia Arabia will continue to exist as a country after a war with the US; but he won't and the US will be getting the oil.