[joshmlewis]

Yeah, I have heard this. I come from a more design background, I don't plan to get into hardcore programming too deep. As someone said, without a CS degree you probably can't design the next Javascript, or up-and-coming language. This is probably true, but not something I plan on doing anyway.

[shad0wfax]

True, if you intend to work on creating applications (rather than say systems programming), it makes more sense to hone skills with how to work with frameworks/tools.

Obviously having the gift to design as well will put in you in an elite league :).