[marcod]

I agree with a bunch of what's said at the beginning of this. Dialog is the way, cancelling is not. But then he started to lose me:

> the biological fact that our sex is determined at conception by an X or a Y sperm.

Ever heard of people who are intersex? Given the diversity of the human condition that some people are born feeling not like the sex of their body at birth does not seem far-fetched to me.

> What I didn’t know, and learned from Joyce in our interview, is that small children are being taught, using a series of colourful little books and videos, that their “assigned” sex is just a doctor’s best guess, looking at them when they were born.

Is this is actually happening on a significant scale? All that I have ever seen were books for children that say, it's ok if you feel different and not a single one that said you will be better if you are different.

[friend_and_foe]

To your first question, this is addressed in the interview.

To your second question, yes. To address your statement after that, peer pressure is hell on a little kid.

[h11h]

I find it frustrating when people claim to be upholding science but then make simple, unscientific claims that suggest they actually have the minds of Greek philosophers.

Some women do have penises. Some men have XX chromosomes. Some women have XY chromosomes. Some people have XX and XY chromosomes. Science tells us that. This has nothing to do with transgender people. But it does suggest "sex" might not be as simple as a metaphysical binary.

[pointlessone]

According to Wikipedia 1.7% is the upper bound of all intersex variations in the population. It is important to acknowledge and accommodate these people. However their existence more often used as a weapon in discourse on adjacent topics like gender and identity but not necessarily specifically intersex.

As an example, about 9% of population is left-handed. When was the last time someone mentioned violence when talking about handedness?

[ZeroGravitas]

I regularly mention that my grandmother was forced, with violence, to write with her right hand in school, and as a weird side effect would sometimes spontaneously start writing backwards.

I'm not sure what your point was in mentioning left-handedness, so not sure how this adds or detracts from it, but as I said I like to mention that because it's a weird little story from not so long ago.

[klyrs]

> However their existence more often used as a weapon in discourse on adjacent topics like gender and identity but not necessarily specifically intersex.

Morally speaking, which is worse: weaponizing the fictional non-existence of intersex people to attack transgender people, some of whom are intersex; or weaponizing the actual existence of intersex people to defend transgender people, some of whom are intersex?

> When was the last time someone mentioned violence when talking about handedness?

My mom was beaten for writing left-handed, and she's still alive. While that is no longer popular in the US, the tradition is alive in the world.

[marcod]

Just to mention it, once I learned a little more about intersex people I very much feel for them: They often need the same medication that is now restricted due to anti trans legislation. They are also caught in stupid bathroom laws.

I do believe their existence is a good reason to not pass anti trans legislation, because they are affected as well, from birth.

[vernon99]

The problem is that people use very (like VERY) rare edge cases to build a whole framework based on it and bully the rest. Typical tyranny of the minority.