[onion2k]

Do you think the and thing when you buy a new dishwasher, a couch, a chair? That it’s mediocre?

Those are things that you replace every 5 to 10 years. People do see innovation with those products because they only look at new ones occasionally.

If people have the same expectations of their iPhone, and they get off the upgrade treadmill of a new phone every 2 years and start buying every 5 years that would mean Apple's iPhone sales would drop by roughly a half among the core group who buy every new model. That would have a very significant impact on their share price.

[camillomiller]

LOL it would not. People buy iPhones on average every three year. The yearly upgraders are just a vocal minority. I’ve had moderately tech savvy people move from an iPhone X to an iPhone 14 and literally describe the jump as “mindblowing”. All is relative, but HN users on average want absolutes, and repeatedly fail to understand how they’re part of a mostly irrelevant opinion bubble when it comes to being relevant as average consumers.

[idkwhoiam]

Hmm I wonder what was so "mindblowing" for them. I went from 6s plus to 13 pro and didn't notice a difference other than battery life & speed.

[camillomiller]

Have you even tried taking a picture and looking at it? :D

[myspy]

I upgraded from the Xs to the 14 Pro. The camera is superb (as an amateur photo guy), the display is better, I like the always on screen, performance is snappier, RAM is bigger so apps don't close as often, and it's sturdier. Fell down and instead of breaking somewhere it made a dent in the asphalt.

[replygirl]

just upgraded from an 11 to a 14 pro, initially was excited, now i'm disappointed every time i go in to edit a photo shot in raw. these are still commodity cameras--all it takes is an overcast day to make photos a blotchy mess

[FalconSensei]

It doesn't match my experience. It's easier to take a decent photo n rough conditions on the iPhone, than a camera. I have Sony a6400, Ricoh grIIIx, Fuji X100V and X-T5. With the iPhone (and androids too) you just point and shoot. With the cameras you do have to fiddle way more or use bracketing and still edit later. The phone does bracketing for you without you even noticing. Plus, the iPhone at least (not sure about android) very easily remove people walking behind the thing you were photographing

[replygirl]

i think we're talking about different things: you, the ability to get something passable with minimal effort; me, the ability to get something nice with all the time and effort i can reasonably give. i was a photographer as my sole profession about ten years ago, i am still waiting for the iphone to catch up with the a77 and pancake 50 i used as a backup at the time. the physics part is not easy, there's just so little light to work with

[lawgimenez]

In our family, we upgrade an average of ~2-3 years because of our mobile plan. My wife got recently an iPhone 14 Pro, I got her iPhone 12, my Xr goes to my MIL, and so on.

Coming from Xr to 12 is mindblowing for me for someone who has a poor eyesight.

[artursapek]

Hacker News mfers projecting their tech gadget addiction on the general population ahahahaha

[rusticpenn]

I am going to upgrade my phone after 8 years, and expect to do the same again.

[nottorp]

My iPhone xs is 4.5 years old and going strong.

Got a friend who upgraded from a 6s to a 13.

I dont know who upgrades every year…

[unstatusthequo]

Every year exactly when new one is available, I do. I just think of most devices as rentals, effectively. Sell the old, buy the new. The delta is the cost of having a new phone with fresh battery and newest features, which to me is worth it for the relatively low cost.

[nottorp]

I did rush and buy a new iPhone for a feature i had to have once. Unfortunately it was the iPhone 4S.

Havent seen anything really enticing lately.

Do you remember the time when a new phone model was noticeably faster than last year’s? I do. Vaguely. Barely. Those times are gone.

[KaiserPro]

7 plus I've for just under 7 years. one battery replacement and its mostly as new. Although there is a lack of OS support now...