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> Wayland has some widely-respected values around who gets to introspect what state and who acts as authority

And this is a main problem. These "widely-respected values" (by whom actually?) make sure that you can't implement an app that allows dragging tabs from one window to another because windows are not allowed to know their absolute coordinates.

> But there's a lot of value in agreed-upon protocols, and X11 also needed many of them.

Depends on the protocol. Wayland as such has zero value. I still can't decide that is designed by retarded morons ore geniuses as means of sabotage. Either way it destroys the FOSS ecosystem very effectively. Good job!

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> These "widely-respected values" (by whom actually?) make sure that you can't implement an app that allows dragging tabs from one window to another because windows are not allowed to know their absolute coordinates.

I don't understand why they would need to for a DND operation (or why a custom protocol would be needed - X11 didn't need one for the same use case either).

> Wayland as such has zero value. I still can't decide that is designed by retarded morons ore geniuses as means of sabotage. Either way it destroys the FOSS ecosystem very effectively. Good job!

This comes across as very irate and emotional. I'm glad you care about the FOSS ecosystem this deeply. I do as well, and have spent 20 years of my career working on making it succeed. I'd rather we don't presume malice in each other.

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> I'm glad you care about the FOSS ecosystem this deeply. I do as well

As member of KDE e.V. board of directors you were part of the cancel brigade against Richard Stallman which was clearly an OP against FOSS. This means you are either some useful idiot or an actively malicious actor. Either way it would be great if people like you would stop "caring" about the FOSS ecosystem.