[insickness]

Twitter was far worse of a dumpster fire before Musk got a hold of it. Read the Twitter files. Just because Twitter doesn't tilt hard left anymore doesn't make Musk a villain, just a villain to you. There's a big difference.

[acdha]

> Twitter was far worse of a dumpster fire before Musk got a hold of it. Read the Twitter files.

I did, which is how I know you didn’t. There really wasn’t much there - even Taibbi eventually admitted that – and it requires some real dishonesty to come up with a “hard left” label.

[Clubber]

The government coerced Twitter to delete posts. That's not nothing.

5th circuit court of appeals just had a ruling that this indeed violated the first amendment.

https://www.ca5.uscourts.gov/opinions/pub/23/23-30445-CV0.pd...

You'd think this would be much more prominent in the news.

[acdha]

> The government coerced Twitter to delete posts. That's not nothing.

I note that you aren’t citing examples for a reason. That’s because we both know that’s not accurate way to describe some federal government officials or campaign staff alerting Twitter to posts which clearly violated their terms of service, especially when there are other examples shown where Twitter said no without consequences.

> 5th circuit court of appeals just had a ruling that this violated the first amendment

No, they didn’t. What they did was remove 9 of the 10 injunctions a Trump appointee issued earlier this year:

https://storage.courtlistener.com/recap/gov.uscourts.lawd.18...

The one point they did allow was substantially trimmed back, too: “So, the injunction's language must be further tailored to exclusively target illegal conduct and provide the officials with additional guidance or instruction on what behavior is prohibited.”

I think it’s important to remember that this is one of the most conservative circuit courts in the country with a history of activist rulings, and this case is an election year move by some prominent Republicans to help their party’s presidential candidate, who appointed one of the judges. The fact that even that court trimmed things down so dramatically doesn’t suggest it’s anywhere near as strong as the conservative commenters whose analysis you’re repeating would like.

[Clubber]

I linked a primary source, you should read it.

[acdha]

I did, on Friday. Feel free to support any of the claims you made with specific citations.

[Clubber]

>The government coerced Twitter to delete posts. That's not nothing.

>5th circuit court of appeals just had a ruling that this indeed violated the first amendment.

"A group of social-media users and two states allege that numerous federal officials coerced social-media platforms into censoring certain social- media content, in violation of the First Amendment. We agree, but only as to some of those officials."

That's on the first page for reference.

Edit: Site says I'm posting too fast, but the provision 6 is a very important provision (pp 69) and the remaining defendants are quite a long list. It seems the plaintiffs named everybody they could think of and the judge whittled it down to the ones that are actually violating provision 6 (pp 72-73) and are still under injunction. If that is correct, this is certainly not a "nothing burger" as many in the media are reporting and the government was actively violating the first amendment. Defendants who violated provision 6 and are still under injunction include members of the White House, the FBI, the CDC, the Surgeon General, and others.

[kemotep]

I am no longer able to use the site because of his changes. 10 years of following links from articles or friends and then scrolling threads. I guess it cost more than the ad revanue my click would’ve generated but I can no longer visit the site to generate any more revenue now. So objectively twitter is worse under Musk’s stewardship as the site no longer works at all for me.