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by lo_zamoyski 1016 days ago
Uh, hold on. That's not what's meant by intentionality. No one is talking about what a machine intends to do. In philosophy, and specifically philosophy of mind, "intentionality" is, briefly, "the power of minds and mental states to be about, to represent, or to stand for, things, properties and states of affairs" [0].

So the problem with this guy's definition of intentionality is, first, that it's a redefinition. If you're interested in whether a machine can possess intentionality, you won't find the answer in interpretivism, because that's no longer a meaningful question.

Intentionality presupposes telos, so if you assume a metaphysical position that rules out telos, such as materialism, then, by definition, you cannot have "aboutness", and therefore, no intentionality of any sort.

[0] https://plato.stanford.edu/entries/intentionality/

2 comments

Some philosophers take that position. Dennett, explicitly cited in the article, wrote The Intentional Stance (1987) about exactly the approach to intentionality taken in the article. His approach is accepted by many philosophers.

As you point out, the approach you cite can't be used in a materialist metaphysical position. That's a pretty severe problem for that definition! So Dennett's approach, or something like it, has major advantages.

Also, you are obviously wrong (or rhetorical?) when you say "No one is talking about what a machine intends to do." We certainly do! You can say "No one should" or other normative condemnations but then we're arguing on different territory.