[fatfingerd]

Sure but if you look at male outcomes, we are clearly ignoring a lot of real health problems that are deadly, so 66% of males ignoring a less than deadly problem that allows 8 hours of work a day seems more likely than a lot of female hypochondriacs to me.

[whimsicalism]

This argument could be applied to any condition with psychosomatic indicators.

Your suggestion that somatically-involved conditions aren't 'real' is offensive and what gives rise to the stigma that means we can't talk about this in the first place.

[fatfingerd]

There's no telling what's real once you are willing to go down that route, least of all a doctors opinion. If someone stops displaying symptoms that could just be a non blinded doctor and a placebo.

I think the offense is going there without any double blinded science and then relying on non reproducible fields of research to annoy the patient.