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by xethos 1015 days ago
> I would argue they always were.

I would posit we can't even get healthcare without bias for people that aren't straight white men. There are subtle differences in body composition between men and women, doubly so for larger (or smaller) body types, but ignoring those differences isn't exactly something from the far-flung past [0].

Otherwise we can quibble over how treating everyone as an average can and has cost lives [1]. People are different, and very small differences can have unexpectedly outsized impacts on usability.

> The most important products don't care about what you look like

The product doesn't care, but this site is awash in stories about how management or engineering should have just talked to the damn floor workers. Worked together, instead of dictating from on-high that the machine in question works well in the lab, and is an elegant, cost-effective solution - that the people actually in the shop know will fail immediately.

DEI (when done right) is not diversity hires. It's accepting others have different ideas that you may not have seen.

[0] https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28343109/

[1] https://www.thestar.com/news/insight/when-u-s-air-force-disc...

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"should have just talked to the damn floor workers. "

You're all over the place trying to avoid my question. We're talking about product consumers. Mismanagement is an aberration in a long reversion to the mean of the product's specs that people want. What car would black Henry Ford make? What kind of induction motor would hispanic Tesla make? Keep cherry-picking references, though. Isn't there a crisis in the replication of journal articles anyway??