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by MichaelZuo 1010 days ago
Not only is it discontinued, but it doesn't seem to have info. on when it was introduced. Can you link a model that is confirmed to predate November 2020?
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> Not only is it discontinued,

It's well available at retailers in Canada. I could go purchase one this afternoon.

> but it doesn't seem to have info. on when it was introduced. Can you link a model that is confirmed to predate November 2020?

The product manual mentions a revision to the power cord made in September 2020, so that product predates nov 2020.

> It's well available at retailers in Canada. I could go purchase one this afternoon.

How is that relevant to the fact that the manufacturer has discontinued it?

Retailers can sell products they have in stock even if they are no longer manufactured.

Looking at the instruction manual it's clear that both the 'Express' and 'Speed60' modes are skipping some steps of the cleaning process as it says:

Normal

Recommended for daily, regular or typical use to completely wash a full load of normally soiled dishes.

Speed60®

Cleans freshly soiled dishes with easy to remove soils. This cycle reduces cycle time while still including drying.

Express

Cleans lightly soiled dishes and reduces overall wash time. Use this cycle to clean glasses and dessert dishware that may need to be reused at the same event.

You were asking for a machine to wash dishes in an hour with a dishwasher available between 2010 and 2020. This machine clearly fits that bill. Now you want something that is also available now (but not from a store only from the brand's website), and it needs to use an identical cleaning cycle to the normal mode.

You've moved the goalposts so far they're onto an entirely different field here.

> You were asking for a machine to wash dishes in an hour with a dishwasher available between 2010 and 2020. This machine clearly fits that bill. Now you want something that is also available now (but not from a store only from the brand's website), and it needs to use an identical cleaning cycle to the normal mode. You've moved the goalposts so far they're onto an entirely different field here.

So your going to pretend the first part of my comment doesn't exist?

It seems a bit self-defeating to be honest since I can't see how anyone will pay more attention to your views after.

Since it appears your confused as to what the article is about, let me spell it out step by step:

It's clearly not moving the goalposts because the whole point behind this change was that it was spurred on by recent dishwashers, circa 2020, that don't clean as well, so giving an example of a dishwasher that doesn't clean as well in a faster mode, is pointless. Since that is already understood as a possibility by everyone who read it.

It's not some hidden secret that all dishwashers can be sped up by lowering the bar in the cleaning cycle. What's interesting is if it's able to maintain the same level of performance in less time, typically at the cost of increased energy and water usage, hence the nominal basis for this rule change by the DOE in 2020.

> So your going to pretend the first part of my comment doesn't exist?

First half of which comment?

> Since it appears your confused as to what the article is about, let me spell it out step by step:

I was replying to your comments, not the article. Your comments specifically asked about machines that had quicker modes. Your comments didn't have any of the details you're now providing. I haven't read the article and don't have any interest in doing so.