[aeternum]

>But don't put two pods in, i.e. one in the detergent tray, and another detergent pod into the tub because these pods are very concentrated and harsh and will damage plates. Only add a little extra powder

This is a strange optimization choice. I'd much rather replace plates slightly more often vs. spend time each night handwashing or rinsing dishes. My philosophy is to put everything in the dishwasher regardless of 'diswasher safe'. If it breaks, I replace it with some other dish/cup brand. In a short time you are left with durable cook and glassware that the dishwasher can clean by itself.

[pjc50]

> In a short time you are left with durable cook and glassware that the dishwasher can clean by itself.

While I quite like this Darwinistic approach, I've not actually had this problem other than with printed or gilded patterns. Although I need a better solution for my grandmother's EPNS spoons.

[mtsr]

There’s also doubling the environmental impact of already pretty nasty dishwasher detergent.

[chongli]

Dishwasher pods are a lot worse than powder. The pods contain plastic which dissolves in the water. The powder used to contain phosphates (which caused a major disruption to aquatic ecosystems) but doesn’t anymore.

[vladvasiliu]

In France, the "lower-end" pods are wrapped in plastic, but it doesn't dissolve, you have to remove it manually. The more expensive ones use that as an argument: "no need to unwrap! just stick in the machine!". I'm not convinced that for the cheaper ones the wrapping is necessary, but at least it doesn't go (directly?) in the water.

[folmar]

Are you sure? The only pods that has a wrapping that is not supposed to be removed by the user are wrapped in gelatin here (EU).

[VonGallifrey]

> gelatin

Wait, does that mean that dishwashing pods are not Vegan?

[chongli]

Apparently not! But there are specific vegan labeled dishwasher pods on the market.

[tomatocracy]

Interestingly I believe in many countries (but not the USA) phosphates were removed from laundry detergent but not dishwasher detergent.

[Propelloni]

Just as a data point, in the EU phosphates in dishwasher detergents are banned since 2017. Laundry detergents are phosphate-free since 2013. All other detergents are limited to some amount, but I can't find which.

As it is often the case in the EU these regulations are aimed at consumer level products. Industrial level products are regulated differently, if at all. I don't know details.

[Cthulhu_]

I pay county tax so that they process wastewater before putting it back into the environment.

[aeternum]

How dare you use our highly efficient wastewater treatment facilities!

[loopdoend]

This method fails with aluminum baking sheets and other cookware.