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by pdw 1014 days ago
Gandi was sold earlier this year. The new owners do not have a good reputation.
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Wasn’t Gandi’s whole schtick an ethical thing? Then they sold out?
Not saying this is what happened necessarily, but sometimes as a startup, you find yourself in a position where you must either sell to someone/anyone or the business must shut down (and you're left with the debt and with long-loyal early employees/friends whose equity you were never able to pay off).

I was a founding member of a social enterprise startup which ended up in a position very similar to that.

In our case, we were lucky that we had two options to sell: (A) to an investor who wanted to pervert our mission, vision, and values for profit; or, (B) to a nonprofit who didn't have the money to give us more than a single paycheck or two worth of payoff for our equity.

If we had sold to Option A, a dozen of us would be wealthy right now. But the company we built would have been perverted into something unrecognizable.

In our case, to our founder's credit, we sold to Option B to keep the dream alive, but none of us became wealthy... and the nonprofit just shut down the company we founded only 2 years after the purchase (partly because the nonprofit didn't have the business savvy to make it sustainable). _Everyone_ was just laid off.

That means, our noble sacrifice only extended the lifetime of our noble vision by 2 years, and we're certainly feeling less good about it.

Because the alternative would have meant that a bunch of us bleeding hearts would have the economic freedom right now to do all sorts of good for untold decades to come.

So I'm just saying, sometimes you don't get to have good options and everything sucks, no matter how well-intentioned you are.

Gandi’s VPS offerings have always been a nightmare
Ah, I knew about the price increases but not the sale of the company.

One thing I really liked about Gandi was that they had a concept of Organizations, and users within those orgs, so we didn’t have to share a login within the org.

I’ve been moving my personal domains to Porkbun and Cloudflare, just to see which I like better. For domains at the company where I work I’d rather move them to Cloudflare, but they require that you use their DNS, and I haven’t yet felt like untangling how that will work with our AWS setup — we’re currently using Route53 and features there, including their certificate management and routing to specific ARNs.

Anyway, It’s a shame, because I was a big advocate for Gandi for a decade, and any time I could I always transferred domains there, for myself and the companies I worked for. In my digital life so far, Apple is the only one I’ve been able to stick with long-term. If they ever get broken up or if I get inexplicably banned, that one’s gonna hurt.

> Cloudflare, but they require that you use their DNS

This has been my only issue with them so far. Realistically it's not likely to cause any problems for either my personal or professional situations since I prefer to use CF DNS. It's simply a missing feature.

If something happens that makes me reconsider their DNS product I'd likely transfer the domains, even if I could change nameservers.

Oh god.

I am a gandi domain user.

I could up my account balance with a check and use their simple noscript http API to perform my domain operations (with curl).

Does it mean I will have to go raw IP email server? Aka, myname@[x.x.x.x] and myname@[IPv6:...], at least SPF is free here :)

Why I cannot find who did buy gandi??? what is happening???

https://www.nextinpact.com/article/71103/gandi-fusionne-avec... Google translate it from french. Basically the new owners are known for not caring about customer service. Gandhi email service will probably go or increase a lot in price
It’s on their Wikipedia page:

> In February 2023, Gandi was acquired by Total Webhosting Solutions, forming a new brand, Your.Online. In June, the company announced drastic price increases, including a new monthly fee for mailboxes previously included for free.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gandi