[rzimmerman]

I was vaccinated in 2020, had a booster in 2021, and the bivalent booster in 2022. There's no way to know with a sample size of one how well I personally was protected. I was definitely exposed several times to COVID and did not catch it until now. I'm disappointed that the new booster isn't available for me yet. I was a few weeks away and there's a good chance it would have prevented this infection, or lessened the severity.

It's telling how everyone I talk to that's avoided vaccines brings it up. They're nervous about getting COVID, they're nervous about having being wrong in the past. Several people have pulled the same "See? The vaccines don't work!" line. Clearly they work. Even 20% efficacy at preventing infection is valuable. Reducing severity is clearly valuable. Reducing spread is a societal obligation, even if the efficacy wanes.

"I had a runny nose so I don't need a vaccine" is a hypothesis. Poll an expert on the matter (like a doctor) and see what they recommend. Ask them why, if you're serious.

[TechBro8615]

You're attributing nervousness to me when it does not exist. I'm pretty sure we both have as much desire to be right as the other. The difference is, I'm not telling you not to get vaccinated. You do what you want, I do what I want, and neither of us rubs it in the face of the other if we turn out to get the short end of the stick. That's the moral basis I've been operating on throughout this whole ordeal, and so far it's worked fine.

[kanbara]

it’s not moral to “do what i want” when that involves causing risk and harm to others. vaccination is a numbers game, and you choosing not to be vaxxed is a choice to be sure.

[eekwatersrising]

I’ve vaccinated many hundreds of people. I followed the propaganda closely. The goal posts shifted quite a bit. At the first the promo flyers hinted that if you get vaccinated you won’t get Covid, you won’t spread it, you won’t get sick , you won’t go into the hospital, you won’t die. Over the next year from when they became publicly available the literal flyers and posters slowly changed from expressing the above, one by one the hints were removed until it was just “ You won’t go to the hospital and die” And now? The posters are gone.

These vaccines were never studied to reduce transmission (they don’t). I got my first case of Covid from a vaccinated coworker ( I’m still “unvaccinated” and will be for life). A year later Pfizer admits some of their deceit during European proceedings.

Furthermore, I will turn your phrase that it’s wrong to “do what I want” when it hurts others. Let’s forget about the grievous discrimination, slander, and hatred I suffered as I continued to serve on the frontlines (hero to zero!). People have legitimately been vaccine injured. Sometimes servely sometimes not, but a lot of those people were forced to do what you wanted (mandates, peer pressure, public hatred) and they got hurt. They got hurt with a forced experimental medical treatment that was presented as totally harmless, super duper studied and safe, extremely effective. Each pf those points are lies but a lot of people made a lot of money and power, so that’s good. Have you looked into how they calculated how the vaccines lowers your risk of death? Look at the actual numbers? 15 people died in the control arm, 14 in the vaccinated; ergo it’s highly safe and effective.

As to masks, highest quality evidence says that they are for show at worst or at best , nobody knows that they do anything so mandates are silly . Cochran systematic review https://www.cochranelibrary.com/cdsr/doi/10.1002/14651858.CD... also

[TechBro8615]

That would make sense if the vaccinations had any impact on transmission rate.