[tessr]

You're right, that hadn't occurred to me. I'm sorry--if I'd been a bit more thoughtful I wouldn't have reacted like that. I was, in part, trying to be appreciative of a comment that was clearly thoughtful.

Penn sometimes jokingly refer to our CS group (which has the abbreviation "DP") Delta Phi, especially when we're planning social events or the like. So it was an amusing coincidence, too.

[katane]

Interesting, isn't it? Our direct reactions tend to be the most honest, but we don't often want to admit that to ourselves for we know that we should be aspiring to be better.

Tolerance might be the opposite of abstraction, and thats a hard reality in a field where abstraction has gained us so much.