[vineyardmike]

> I'm skeptical of the obvious counterpoint that this assists a flywheel of greater b2c satisfaction leading to b2b success...

This past summer I quit my job as Engr #3 of a startup. While there, I desperately tried to convince 1+2 that we should use tailscale instead of rolling our own VPN with wire guard and EC2. Couldn’t do it. The product was too magical and everyone was suspicious. I use it at home and tried very hard to make the case.

This feels more like a long term investment in breaking the “mesh” basis for their product. IMO it’s part of the magic and partially a problem. I couldn’t explain the security model for the mesh (as an outsider), and according to some comments it seems like it causes battery issues on mobile devices.

[Operyl]

They've been, over the past year, putting a significant amount of work into fixing the battery life issues. It is largely resolved for me, and it seems according to a recent article the vast majority of their users.

https://tailscale.dev/blog/battery-life

* 2% still affected according to https://tailscale.com/blog/reimagining-tailscale-for-ios/