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by ikomrad 1018 days ago
Great.
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"Elon Musk says Twitter’s ad revenue is down 50% and cash flow is negative" https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/15/business/twitter-cash-flow-el...
Ha, I thought this was positioning for the new lawsuit when I clicked the link, and then I saw the date.

It really isn't working out well, is it?

That has absolutely nothing to do with the number of staff. It is directly related to the ADL’s campaign of convincing advertisers to pull out. It appears there will be a lawsuit.

https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2023/09/05/tech/elon-musk-adl-lawsui...

Just because Musk says something doesn’t make it true. In fact it usually means the opposite.
What about the ADL itself? Here’s their call to action against Facebook. Why wouldn’t they go after twitter… Oh wait they did barely one month after acquisition.

https://www.adl.org/resources/letter/open-letter-companies-a...

https://theweek.com/controversies/1018137/one-month-after-it...

https://forward.com/news/556095/adl-twitter-advertising-boyc...

Sorry, I should have been less brief. I don’t deny that the ADL has been campaigning against xitter, I just hold extreme doubt that they are the main reason xitter lost half of its ad revenue. I think that is more likely caused by other factors.
Do you have insider knowledge of the _other factors_ you _think_ is more likely the cause of revenue loss? Isn’t almost all of twitters revenue pre paid blue check, advertising? Where else are they generating income? Wasn’t twitter losing money before? Has twitter ever been profitable?

I’ve linked to proof of boycotts and the ADLs position in convincing advertisers to drop twitter due to the ADLs “research.”

You provide nothing other than you opinion or assumption presented as fact. I digress, you can believe whatever you want to.

I mean, Elon is also blaming the CCDH for his loss in advertising. He’s not exactly an unbiased source here. Just because he says it, doesn’t make it true.
Do you have any sources or insider knowledge that you can present that would put Elon himself on the hook for loss in advertising? I’ve replied to multiple comments citing ADL CCDH and others actively seeking to sway advertisers away from twitter using “research.”

Instead of presenting a counter argument with facts or data to back it up you resort to calling Elon a liar. It obviously shows your bias. You can believe whatever you want to believe.

elmu is a liar, thus him and his word simply can't be trusted

do you have any reliable sources or insider knowledge that you can present that would prove true these unreliable, unconvincing claims of an infamous liar?

> unreliable, unconvincing claims of an infamous liar

Again that’s you opinion.

How long has it been since you stopped beating your partner?

It’s gotten a lot speedier. I’ve been impressed
For very small values of 'great'.
The app is a lot faster and so is the mobile web client. They are shipping
It's dead simple easy to make things go faster if you take away features like blocking and limit users to reading a few hundred posts a day.