[justinluther]

The main condition that you're talking about is having a high population. Chicago has a lot of murders because it has a lot of people. The murder rate per capita is a little above 2x the national average, but not an outlier by any means.

Chicago is #28 on the national ranking of murder cities: https://www.cbsnews.com/pictures/murder-map-deadliest-u-s-ci...

It is ranked right in between Chattanooga and Buffalo.

[pauldenton]

I guess I got caught in the narrative. I still remember Spike Lee's movie Chiraq. from 2003-2012. During that nine-year period, 4,265 citizens were killed in Chicago, which is nearly the number of U.S. soldiers who were killed in Iraq. The idea you have as much risk being shot as an American citizen in the war zone of Iraq as you would walking the streets of the south side of Chicago.

The risk of a man 18 to 29 years old dying in a shooting in the most violent ZIP code in Chicago — 60624, a swath of the West Side that includes Garfield Park — was higher than the death rate for U.S. soldiers in the Afghanistan war or for soldiers in an Army combat brigade that fought in Iraq, according to a study in the medical journal JAMA Network Open. Among men 18 to 29, the annual rate of firearm homicides in that ZIP code was 1,277 per 100,000 people in 2021 and 2022, the study found, compared with an annual death rate for U.S. troops in a heavily engaged combat brigade in Iraq of 675 per 100,000. The most violent ZIP codes in Philadelphia surpassed the risk of combat death by military service members, too, but the death rate there was lower than in Chicago, the study found. New York and Los Angeles didn’t have any areas that were so deadly.

[ceejayoz]

Soldiers in Iraq wear armor, travel in armored vehicles, have trained medical first responders seconds away, and can call in a helicopter medivac in minutes. They are disproportionately likely to survive a shootout versus a random civilian.

[bombcar]

That may be true for some definition of Chicago, but no other city I know of has websites dedicated to the murders of its inhabitants. https://heyjackass.com

And even that shows there's lots of "barely murdering at all" parts of the city that bring the averages down into line.

[plagiarist]

It is always Chicago, because of right-wing echo chamber. One would think an honest economic study would try to control a bit for being mere miles from Indiana. And yet it is always Chicago.

[pauldenton]

https://youtu.be/_9Te_ISK598? It was 32 this labor day weekend https://abc7chicago.com/chicago-shootings-this-weekend-shoot... It can go up to 75 depending on the weather https://abc7ny.com/40-shot-7-fatally-in-violent-weekend-in-c... August 21st had 40 shootings. One would think an honest study of mass shootings would show you they happen in urban cores and are largely gang motivated, not in a school Columbine style.